Buying a violin on facebook or gumtree? Some tips…

facebook violin

Chances are if you’re reading this then you are in the market for a secondhand violin maybe on facebook or gumtree and why not a secondhand violin can be better than new . While I hope you’ll come and checkout what I have on offer ( and why you might buy a preloved violin from me), here is a dozen or so tips if your going to get one yourself on gumtree or facebook!

gumtree violin

Chances are you’ll do OK, most people are pretty straight-up and honest about what they have, but they don’t actually know themselves and there is the odd bit of firewood out there masquerading as a violin. So here is my dozen or so tips on what to look out for 

1. Bow – does it have more hair than me – these guys wear out. does it have the reverse curve

2. Case – scruffy is OK, structurally unsound..not Ok. 

3. Open seams – fixable..but probably not by you

4. Body cracks – likely needs opening up…an expensive fix and probably not worth it

5. Endpin cracks – might be superficial…might not

6. peg action and cracks – sticky or sloppy pegs, eliptical pegs, cracks in the peg box

7. Bridge – bent? at the wrong height, badly fitted

8. Action – strings low enough to be easy to play – but not buzzing

9. Chips – cosmetic usually – but can lead to splitting down the track…get them seen too!

10. Strings – only last a year, still work after than but might be fuzzy, nt hold a note and sound not very good

11. Brand – google the brand (inside the f hole)  give you an idea of if its reputable

12. Price when new. How much do you need to spend well  google it. I recon about  $300 + $100 per year of playing I recon is about right.

If you can have play it, and bring along another similar violin for comparison of sound (acoustics can change the sound dramatically) that will help too.

Finally don’t be afraid to ask the seller about the provenance, that is where they got it and how long they have had it . They might be embarrassed to say its third hand (but shouldn’t be), if it hasn’t seen the inside of a violin shop in a while though make sure to give it some love.

Here’s a one take video version of the above, if you have 5min or so of your life to lose. Its not fancey but you might find it helpful.

Sandner Violin review…made in Germany?

Franz Sandner is a relatively well known factory violin maker from Germany producing higher end student and other violins in Germany, carried now to third generation. Sander German Violins pop up in shops and online with a bit of a price premium, here is my review and thoughts about them.

Digging a bit deeper, some time back though a joint Sandner violin venture was established with Taiwan, to form the Sandner Dynasty Company which builds and manufactures violins in China. China makes good violins these days, the cost of labour is lower than in western Europe so it makes good sense. The challenge comes around the marketing and does it pass the ‘pub test’. Is it really still a German violin? The labels implies that it is, and at the price point it would seem to be a bargain. Germany is written everywhere from case, to label inside the violin..and bridge!!

Even on the Aubert bridge on this one it seems not quite right as Aubert a French bridge company! . Personally I find it a bit deceptive and at the very least quite misleading.

sandner violin back on a sandner dynasty violin

None the less by way of first hand review, my son had a Sandner Dynasty violin for a while, it was a good violin for him at the stage he was at. It was a quality build, with a good bow and an upper end student case too…so I was happy with it, but if I had thought it to be a German violin I think I would have been disappointed. I still see Sandner Violins advertised as a German violins in music shops too..its a bit disappointing I recon, sure the store owner can claim ignorance as it says Germany on the label…but I recon they’d know! Probably it cheapens their actual German made Sandner violins reputation too.

Fiddler Dan