Geared pegs for violin

wittner geared vilin pegs

Geared violin pegs, like Wittner geared violin pegs, are a great addition to any instrument where you would like to tune solely from the pegs at the scroll. They adjust as finely as fine tuner but can do a greater tuning range than just fractions of a semitone, so quite useful  as an all in one tuning solution.  They owe their secret to tiny planatery gears inside the peg itself which allow the spindle inside the peg box to turn slower than the outside by 8x or so.

Frequently I am supplying and fitting these pegs for a range of needs

  • Older clients as they find are much easier to turn that conventional pegs and fine tuners alike.
  • They are particularly sort after for fiddlers who like to use alternate tuning for some songs and thus might need to change tunings mid session. For example instead of GDAE an ADAD tuning gives you and instant D chord with drones! )
  • Another reason that presents is if there is existing damage to a peg box it can form part of a repair solution that is less invasive to the instrument.
geared vs normal violin pegs

Conventional pegs hold in place by a friction fit with the peg box., the friction arises by pushing the peg in thus directing force outwards which tries to expand the hole (pegs are slightly conical in shape).

Geared pegs once fitted are no longer doing this dynamically  and only pull in the direction of string tension. Thus a peg bushing, rather than new piece of timber fitted to the outside of cheek on the inside can remedy all but the most severe of peg box cracks.

Fitting of geared pegs is similar to the fitting of normal pegs, with some minor tweaks. For Queensland conditions many luthiers (and I am no exception) like to use the tiniest amount of glue to hold them in place (PVA or poly urethane depending on circumstances) this helps the pegs which are plastic sit more reliably in the peg hole for our temperature and humidity variations.  Also for all but the smallest of peg boxes the turning part of the shaft needs to be aligned proximally to the string groove its feeding. 

Using geared violin pegs

Using of geared pegs is pretty simple though it takes a period of adjustment by the user:  

  •  When putting the strings on some care is needed to make sure the string only goes on the turning part of the peg – which has a roughened/striped texture 
  •  The string should be placed in the hole so that its not bent close to 180 degrees (this will make sense if you try to do this) to avoid string fatigue that would shorten its life.
  •  Its no longer necessary for the string to be wound right into the side of the peg box as the peg no longer needs this to aid it staying in place
  • The pegs have an 8:1 ratio, meaning it takes 8 turns to turn the peg once….so it takes a few more turns to put new string on it.

NOTE: While its no longer necessary to keep the fine adjusters on the tail piece they can be removed, however I don’t recommend doing this until after you have been using the geared pegs for at least  few months. You may find for the A and E strings in particular you might still prefer to use fine adjusters, rather than bending your left hand around the peg box mid session.

So why don’t more violins come with these marvellous pegs? I guess first is the cost as the pegs (sans installation) run close to $200 a set. Secondly though they are geared and made of modern materials and many want the feel and look of traditional pegs. The look being a pretty important cultural thing associated with the instrument, mind you we are happy to use synthetic strings and tail pieces and chin/ shoulder rests so maybe their time will come?.

Brisbane’s Bow Rehairing Journeyman 

For bow rehairing by Brisbane journeyman luthier Fiddler Dan. Choose from Mongolian fine hair or courser grades for viola, cello or bass. I can also replace thumb leathers and bow windings as well.

Bow Rehairing is something in demand in Brisbane  and with several luthiers recently retiring, it is even further under pressure as demand continues to grow. Reasonable mastery of violin bow re-hairing requires something of the order of a few hundred rehairs to have been completed, which is not a short path by any means….of course reasonable competency is reached well before that.

bow hair stock for bow rehairing per customer reuuirements

UPDATE: August ’24 I’ve now rehaired over 60 bows and have a good selection of hair from fine Mongolian, to courser grade hair and black hair for individual preferences of violist, cellists and bass players.

my bow rehairing jig given to me by my teacher...its made of huon pine...which i like to use for my plugs
My bow rehairing jig, a gift from my violin making teacher David Brown

Under the instruction of my teacher I have been learning the art of bow rehairing  for the last year or so with numerous rehairs and bow repairs now under my belt, as well as general bow repair services . I am happy to say I now can offer this service as a ‘journeyman’.  The challenge now is to continue to progress my experience for the future, which is where I need your help.

Rehairing from Brisbanes most experienced luthiers is around $250 and well worth the price. Some music shops are doing them for around ~$200, either in house or outsourcing the work to a specialist. I highly recommend these services if you have a professional level bow and are playing to a high level.

bow rehairingh requires the replacement of the wedges at the tip and in the frog of the violin bow

However for student and intermediate bows for intermediate/advancing players you might like to give me a try, as I am offering my ‘journeyman’ bow rehairs for substantially less as I develop my experience and further refining my skill. Rest assured though I am using the same high quality Mongolian horse hair that my more experienced colleagues are using.

Take a look at some the elements of bow rehairing

Why are my violin pegs slipping?

Actually most people don’t ask why are my pegs slipping, they just say my violin is out of tune and won’t hold a note. There is a myriad of reasons and the violin pegs slipping is usually the culprit. To understand why it happens it’s useful to understand how pegs work.

Pegs have a slightly conical taper to them, this neat design allows them to fit more snugly by pushing them in slightly as you tighten the string. Its not perfect , probably need to move to something like guitar tuners, but hey this is a traditional classical instrument so pegs it is!

The pegs them selves are made of a hardwood, usually ebony so they they don’t wear out and go into the peg box which is maple – also a hard wood but slightly softer. So inevitably though use they start to wear a bit.  Wood on wood can get a bit sticky or creaky so they are lubricated with peg paste (or peg dope). Peg past is made from some lubricating and some sticky elements, so they can grip and slide appropriately. A mix of fine clay, rosin and perhaps graphite is in this material.  The different makers of peg paste have different combinations and I find using the right one for the climate is important. Peg paste is something replaced yearly with an instruments service.

Home/ teacher solutions can involve some crushed rosin or chalk applied to the pegs – yes it works as a quick fix, but you may end up with stuck pegs.

Over time the wearing of the pegbox takes place , and its an out or round wear, because for the string tension in one direction , meaning the peg develops favourite positions to sit in and may slip to these. The remedy here is to ream the peg box hole slightly to return it to round and shave the peg also if appropriate.

Another thing that happens to pegs /peg box as they wear is the peg sits further in the hole. At some point this is limited by the string that is wound around the hole as it hits the opposite side of the peg box, and so push in as you may the peg will never fit tighter in the box and always slip. this is common on a violin thats been played for some time (years), so on secondhand instruments that have been handed down to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th player its an inevitability. The solution is to drill a new hole in the peg for the string to sit more in the middle of the peg box…no hassle!

One note of caution if your violins pegs are slipping, resist the temptation to push it too hard into the peg box to get it tight. The danger here is you crack the peg box and have a very expensive repair – or in the case of a student violin it will be cheaper to replace it.

Violin Appraisal

Appraising a violin for value is a tricky business, with more than a few places not doing it? Violin appraisal is looking at the quality of the build of a violin, its sound and then also its historical value. Un-picking these three components of a violin during appraisal I find helpful in determining the value of a violin. But it’s not without its challenges. (See How much is my violin worth).

For modern instruments from a reputation brand or maker, appraisal is more straight forward and google can really help here. Of course you also need to consider the providence, or how the current own (and owner before them) came by the instrument to ensure it is authentically what it purports to be.


Older violins are much harder to appraise, labels to the uninitiated can be misleading at best, age can be faked, many in the trade are unwilling to appraise such instruments. For example most if not every instrument label as a Stradivari is labelled so at best as a homage to the famed maker, or indicates a copy of one of his models and the same is true for the instruments copied of other famous makers like Guarneri, Maggini and Amati’s in the wild.

Less kindly there is an entire business around “antiquing” of both instruments and the labels inside them , with dust, staining and even “tone balls” added to give a sense of age. In the trade valuing of these instruments is acknowledged as difficult to do, even with a encyclopaedic knowledge and years of experience, where there is intent to deceive by a maker it can be tricky to detect. There is the business of fake repairs, fake neck grafts etc… to give an impression of age.

Through the quality of the timbers, construction on the insides and sound one can learn much about an instrument during appraisal.
How old is it, where was it made and ultimately how much is it worth are the common questions i am asked during appraisal.

Usually I can give a pretty good idea, though where I have some uncertainty I often refer on to someone else, in particular with higher quality older instruments. Usually my estimates come in the same ball park as my collegues..but not always.

Violin Bridge replacement

Violin bridges are essential for a violins function and over time need replacement. Just a few mm wide, a violin bridge holds up strings in tension with significant downward force on the body of the violin itself.  In addition to the mechanical properties the bridge is responsible for the transmission of the strings vibration to the body and the violin bridge replacement needs to be carefully crafted and sculpted.

violin bridge replacement

Bridges fail for all kinds of reasons including misadventure, but also succumb to the ravages of age and twist and warp under the constant tension. An improperly fitted bridge may have a shorter lifetime as well as it may not sit at the correct angle to connect  and  buttress the strings to the body in the correct alignment, or the feet matching to the body of the instrument may not be optimal.

When I fit a bridge I take into account the instrument it’s going on, the strings and the needs of the player.  For beginners and student violins I cut the bridge a bit thicker than otherwise, this prioritises strength as the alignment is not likely to be checked and adjusted as often as it should be. On better instruments, the matching of the bridge to the instruments tonal qualities can help with the bass vs. treble response, bridge thinness and mass removal from the kidneys and bottom arching can really help. Selection of the grade of the bridge is also important especially if you are chasing projection and brilliance. 

A new violin bridge blank looks something like its final fitted form and the replacement process involves matching the feet to the body of the violin to ensure full tonal transmission. The angle of the bridge must be set so that the pulling of the strings from the top and the tailpiece are optimally into the instrument. String height is then matched to the type of strings used to make sure the heights are both playable and also that the strings have enough  room to swing without clipping on the fingerboard and leading to buzzing.

Violin restringing..easy as

Restringing a violin is relatively straight forward and easy task to undertake. Usually about once a year is about right for the average violin players restringing frequency. Its a good idea to keep a spare set of strings on hand in-case one breaks so you can do it straight away, and then once the first one is changed check out the others, to see if they might need changing as well. You see, before a violin string breaks, usually its has started to degrade. 

Tell tale signs of needing a strings change are :

 1. Discolouration such as oxidation as a white powered on aluminium strings and rust on steel strings (particularly the E string)

 2. The winding on the outer string is starting to unravel. This may occur at points of higher preassure such as the bend at the nut and over the bridge. Also common is the A string when the first few fingers go down

 3. The ‘sparkle’ has gone out of the sound. That is over time strings stretch and thus lose their elasticity. once this is gone their ability to support the over tone harmonics is also diminished. ‘Sparkle’ is the technical term 😉

4. Just before a string breaks it loses its ability to stay in tune, make sure this is not  due to to peg slippage though. Its the internal fibres of the string starting to let go.

restringing a violin

If your changing the strings yourself (and you should learn to do this) also :

1. Make sure to ‘lube’ the nut and bridge with a lead pencil so the string can move easily. 

2. Clean up the fingerboard underneath, if its grooved then get that seen too as this will effect the strings ability to vibrate  properly.

3. Make sure the pegs still grip, and don’t creak or jump – this is a sure sign that a peg break is likely in the future – and need some lube or peg paste.

4. Make sure the pegs turn smoothly, if not the peg holes may be slightly out of round and need some reaming. Ebony is harder than maple and wears it away over time.

5. When winding the string on,  wind the string on away from the peg wall  for a turn then cross it over itself to lock it onto the peg and wind the string up to the peg wall its closest to on the nut, this helps stop the tapered peg from escaping the peg box a little. (If this doesn’t make sense ask someone that knows a bit more that you)

See changing the strings at 2:40s

A violin restringing is a bit like a minor service, so in addition to all of the above give the violin a good look over and a clean (nothing but a gentle cloth and the tip of your tongue to moisten it though). If it has any  issues that need attending to take it to someone for an opinion.

Also make sure to pickup your next set of strings at this time to (though the old ones can be emergency spares for a while). You might also like to try another brand/make of string as well…they all sound different so depending on what sound you are looking for get some advice there as well (see Violin String Selection Guide…for Brisbane-ites and beyond

Violin Neck Graft

This lovely old violin came my way recently in quite good condition and looks to be well made. However the neck is what let it down  and it turned into quite a rabbit hole.

The button had at one stage been broken on the violin and been repaired with an internal button graft , complete with wooden pins. Higher up on the neck root signs of fracture, were plan to see. A neck graft was required…

 

On disassembly the reason for the fracture was plain, the screw holding the neck to the body had rusted into the timbers. This method of neck attachment, as a butt joint was common on older violins, especially baroque era instruments. Today it serves less well as there is a lot of strain placed on the button and end grain gluing of the neck root to the ribs is not considered sufficiently strong for modern higher tension strings. Originally the neck and top block would often be nailed together for strength, though on this instrument was likely replaced by a screw.

The solution for this instrument was to graft on a new neck root, ensuring plenty of parallel grained timber for strength as end grain gluing is not that strong. Also a modern neck joint was carved into the neck block to increase gluable area at the bottom of the neck root and mechanical strength of the joint as well.

Once this was undertake,  neck angles set and the button graft attended to,  it was time to finish the neck with sufficient traditional pigments and a bit of “splodge” to blend in better.

I’m looking forward to playing this instrument…but first the peg box needs some attention as well…so I need to be patient

Student Cello Repairs

Cello repairs on the numbers outweigh violin repairs, proportionally speaking. This is especially for student instruments. They are small enough they can be carried about by students, but large enough that it’s a bit clumsy to handle. One of the most common causes of injuries is the humble chair, against which a cello leans and inevitably topples when left unattended.

The most common injury from the toppling is the neck break (which I discuss on my Cello repairs page ). The challenge for student cellos is the fingerboard, which is often attached with “white glue” and thus more time consuming to remove and more likely to leave some scaring.

cello fingerboard removal
Cello fingerboard removal

Its desirable to remove the fingerboard to pin the neck across the break to give it further strength. However it is often necessary to undertake if there is a screw placed there at the time of manufacture (common among some student brands).

cello neck break repair
Cello neck break showing recessed hole where a screw was placed when it was made

Where this screw doesn’t exist, pinning through the fingerboard helps substantially reduce the time to repair…and thus the cost. While a ‘no-no’ for traditional instruments, its widely considered acceptable for student grade instruments though.

Whats best for the cello repair is highly variable dependance on factor like

  • The presence of the screw or other reenforcing,
  • The glues used in manufacture,
  • How clean the break is
  • How high the break is on the neck root.

Violin Tailpiece and why it matters

The violin tailpiece in an integral part of the mechanical structure of a violin, a convenient place to tune your string or strings but also plays a big role in the sound production of a violin.

violin tailpiece

While you bow your violin on the other side of the bridge there are also vibrations happening on the strings and tailpiece on the lower half of your violin, in a sympathetic way. 

Understanding this is a key to getting a little extra sparkle out of your instrument. I have seen many a fine instrument miss out on a little extra boost to its sound through poor tail piece setup, choice or a sole focus on aesthetic. All of these are easily rectified and can improve the sound and convenience of your instrument.

Choices in timber or modern materials, sound adjusters and the geometry of setup can all make a difference. So here is 10mins of your life you won’t get back to find out more

Video breakdown (skip to the good bits)

0:00 Introduction to tailpieces

0:54 Sympathecic resonance in a violin

3:10 The other side of the violin bridge

3:20 Violin Tailpieces

4:00 Violin fine adjusters

4:45 Violin tuning at pegs and tail piece

5:10 Common tailpiece types

5:45 Tradition and tailpiece selection

6:30 After length and resonance

7:37 Fine adjusters

8:45 What you buy at generalist shops

9:30 A weak sum up and finish

Violin tuners

violin tuners from  ebay

Almost gone are the days of using a tuning fork to tune your instrument. Actually I still have one in my case but usually I’m tuning to a piano. Enter the rise of violin tuners….

For the beginner a tuning fork takes some getting used to , its only one note (and its 440Hz but thats another story). There is an abundance of tuners out there today and they are great for young players to tune the violin too. These clip on tuners tune by vibration so you clip them to your violin peg and adjust the screen so you can see them. The violin tuners are more of a general instrument tuner, so if you see it advertised as a guitar tuner …relax it still works on a violin…and pretty cheap on ebay too!.

violin tuners from Daddarion

My favourite of these clip on style is the D’Addario one, its harder to find an a bit more pricey,  but worth it because you can leave it on your instrument so really convenient. Clip on violin tuners are also great for a noisey environment, because as it tunes by vibration it doesn’t matter what everyone else is doing, thus especially useful in a contemporary band situation.

violin tuner apps from your favourite smart phone store
Violin tuners, as apps from your favourite smart phone store

At my workshop people ask if I sell tuners, I tell them they have one already in their pocket, which is good for a laugh. Yes take out your favourite smart phone, go to the App/ play store and search for instrument tuner and your goog to go…  Your welcome, no need to buy one……unless the convenience of a clip on is desired.

Fiddler Dan